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发表于 2015-10-20 00:32:23 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 Rom1500 于 2015-10-20 00:34 编辑

Hello !

I do not speak Chinese, but I can translate.
Do you agree, I speak English?

I am Eric (Rom1500) of France.
I went for 9 days in Beijing and Chengde before the Olympics.
Your country is amazing! I like this ! I came back with more than 4000 pictures

I have a personal site dedicated to handheld from Sharp PC-1500:
http://www.PC-1500.info
The purpose of my site is to keep the PC-1500 history all over the world and share it with fans.
I have a lot of information from France, Germany, England, USA and China ... !!!

Thank you to Taobao! It was very nice to buy items and books related to the PC-1500.
But now, before the Summer Games in Beijing, it is now impossible for me to see all the PC-1500 products on Taobao.
The system does not show me items second hand!
And I'm here to help: maybe someone can help me find Internet links to Taobao stores with PC-1500 articles related to the sale?

I am a member of a French forum of old computers fans:
http://www.silicium.org/forum/index.php
You can register, it is free and members are friendly!

Thank you all :)
Eric
您好!

我不会说中国话,但我能翻译。
你是否同意,我讲英语吗?

我是法国的埃里克(Rom1500)。
我去了奥运会前9天在北京和承德。
贵国是太神奇了!我喜欢它!我回来有超过4000的照片

我有一个个人网站,致力于从夏普PC-1500掌上电脑:
http://www.PC-1500.info
我的网站的目的是保持PC-1500的历史在世界各地,并与球迷们一起分享。
!!!我有很多来自法国,德国,英国,美国和中国的信息...

谢谢淘宝!这是非常好的购买相关的PC-1500的物品和书籍。
但是现在,以前夏季奥运会在北京,现在是不可能的,我看到所有在淘宝上的PC-1500的产品。
该系统不显示我的项目秒针!
而我在这里帮助:也许有人可以帮我找到Internet链接到淘宝店铺与销售相关的PC-1500的文章?

我的旧电脑爱好者一个法国论坛的成员:
http://www.silicium.org/forum/index.php
您可以注册,它是免费的,成员都是友好的!

谢谢大家:)
埃里克
发表于 2015-10-20 01:13:56 | 显示全部楼层
Hi Eric, welcome! Your site is so great!
Don't worry, you can speak English here :) In fact there are other international friends in our forum. Also we are in close contact with the French calculator community TI-Planet.org.

As for the problem of Taobao, a easy solution is to switch the current area to China mainland. Can you see the country logo at the top of  the taobao page?

And taobao is not the only source. These gadgets are usually sold on other electronic forums,  such as:
http://crystalradio.cn (I think you have already known this one XD)
http://bbs.leowood.net

And there are quite a lot tear-downs and related discussion on http://bbs.mydigit.cn

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Whoops, seems we discovered each other's site almost the same time!
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发表于 2015-10-20 19:53:08 | 显示全部楼层
If the locale option of Taobao doesn't work, try http://s.taobao.com.
发表于 2015-10-20 20:25:25 | 显示全部楼层
hello my name is freemico... i also have pc-1500a~~
 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-20 23:59:23 | 显示全部楼层
Thank you all ! The solution provided by 朔雪X忆 is works perfectly !

Freemico, you'll find lot of useful informations on my website.
Do you know that 11 versions of the PC-1500 exist ?
- PC-1500 Japan with Katakana chars on front panel (originally produced in 1981)
- PC-1500 Japan same as previous but with blue paint.
- PC-1500 Europe, USA and China
- PC-1500 RP produced in Brazil
- PC-1500 RP2 produced in Brazil (Same as the RP version but with a 16KB memory module)
- PC-2 produced by Tandy for USA and Europe
- PTA-4000 produced in Hungary by Hiradastechnika (without Sharp label)
- PTA-4000+16 produced in Hungary (Same as the PTA-4000 but with an internal 16KB memory board. The module slot is unusable)
- PC-1500A produced for Europe, USA and China with an extended memory size
- PC-1501 same as PC-1500A but produced in Japan with Katakana chars on front panel
- PC-1500A Nanfeng, same as PC-1500A, produced in your country (without Sharp label) (Looking for one in good state and the manuals)

For the CE-150 there are only 5 versions
- CE-150 Japan, China, USA and Europe by Sharp
- KA-160 in Hungary by Hiradastechnika
- A black version produced by Tandy
- CE-150 RP and RP2 produced in Brazil by Sharp
- CE-150 produced in China by Nanfeng (looking for one)

And i'm looking for other versions, maybe in India...

You can find all the manual's versions freely downloadable on my website.
And many other papers...






发表于 2015-10-21 00:06:59 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 enigmae 于 2015-10-21 00:15 编辑

Hello,your web are very famous!
Excited!
It is said that there are more than 200 thousand pc-1500 in China at 1980s, so China has many books about PC-1500.
Like assembly compiler,RAM expand and so on.But many programs were lost,they save in cassettes and many of that are losted.
Many books are expensive in Taobao,you can try to find them on "http://www.kongfz.com/",there are many cheap books and you maybe can't find many of these in Taobao(my English is very poor,XD).
And there are many books on "http://book.chaoxing.com/",many books didn't have entity now but they still have digital edition.

 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-21 03:00:42 | 显示全部楼层
Thank youfor the links Enigmae !Your english is as good as mine XD

It was a very big surprise to discover how many books were published in China ! Amazing !
When i buy a book on Taobao i scan it, use a char recognition software, and try to translate and understand it.
Then it's better for me to find them directly in PDF format.

Do you know if there was some Sharp Club in your country ?
For example in Beijing ?

I have old program tapes and most of the time they are readable.
I will publish soon a Basic extension written by someone in Switzerland.
It was easy to convert a tape :
http://www.pc-1500.info/2015/03/21/torsten-mucker-save-your-tapes-with-wav2bin/

Greetings,
Eric.

发表于 2015-10-21 11:54:35 | 显示全部楼层
Hi Chris,
My friend @dazedase says he has a Nanfeng model. Unfortunately it's a dead one. He mainly collects pocket computers.



I don't know if there is a SHARP club... Not likely.

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发表于 2015-10-21 16:21:16 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 enigmae 于 2015-10-21 18:57 编辑
Rom1500 发表于 2015-10-21 03:00
Thank youfor the links Enigmae !Your english is as good as mine XD

It was a very big surprise to  ...

If you want, most of books about pc-1500 is free on "Chaoxing" ,but when you want to donwload these books, it's maybe not easy, you must use their PC-software, and it's inconvenient,if you can find someone in China's university to help you, it's easy, many colleges buy the license, their students can donwload the book free.
As I know, China didn't have any club, fans always  communicate online, we share picturs, programs, we rearly communicate offline (I mean in real world) .
Most of PC-1500 are used in state-owned enterprise, when the operator retired, no one know what in the cassettes, and most of these will sleep in warehouse, or become rubbishes.
For the program transport,you can look this"http://bbs.mydigit.cn/read.php?tid=1068173"

It also has English edition.

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-10-21 22:05:46 | 显示全部楼层
Thank you, i will try to translate the "Chaoxing" webpage and try to download.
I downloaded a book from this site 3 pages at a time, using the search option with words from the last page, go 3 new pages... and downloaded to whole books (except 5 pages) ! I was a crazy job but this book was really insteresting !!! lol
It talks about the PC-1500, machine language programing, extensions and... the SLDC-1500 system !
I don't know anything like it in Europe or USA.


Now i want to download each book toalking about the PC-1500, translate it, and understand that your country did more than us with this pocket computer ! :)


I know the link "http://bbs.mydigit.cn/read.php?tid=1068173"
It was very useful for me. And i have found, in a Chinese book, some informations that i never saw in Europe/USA books.
And i have built my own tool to exchange data between a PC and a PC-1500+CE-158.
It can recognize the transfer mode and save in the matching format.
With my friend CGH tools i can disassemble or extract modules contents, like Basic programs from the CE-50xA or B modules.
http://www.pc-1500.info/2015/01/31/ce-158-need-tool/
But my tool need some improvements... and bug corrections. It was only tested on my own PC and my iMac with USB/Serial converter.
I'm a Delphi developper too :)


Here most of the PC-1500 were used by students for high school.
Some were used by flight companies or insurance/credit companies.




发表于 2015-10-21 22:44:54 | 显示全部楼层
Rom1500 发表于 2015-10-21 22:05
Thank you, i will try to translate the "Chaoxing" webpage and try to download.
I downloaded a book  ...

The keyword I search in Chaoxing is "PC-1500" and "袖珍计算机"
In one book, it is said that there has disassembly program from Japan SQALL, (machine to asm) ,but I can't find the code now.
For Chaoxing, you must use their PC-Sofewear and have a count, in fact I haven't donload books on it, you can try "print to PDF"
Maybe some Chinese fans will donwload all the books, I don't know when.
发表于 2015-11-7 01:26:28 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.pc-1500.info  
The  forum   is great!  
发表于 2015-11-18 15:28:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 huaweiwx 于 2015-11-30 21:35 编辑

hello!
    TASM.EXE,一个表驱动汇编程序,在TI Z80计算器中用来广泛用来将Z80汇编语言生成Z80执行代码,我写了一个TASM针对LH5801的驱动表:TASM5801.TAB,同时对TASM处理相对偏移和Z80的不同之处,对TASM原程序也作了修改,能正确生成LH5801代码,这里供有兴趣的朋友参考:

运行点击 test5801.bat 运行测试检查全部汇编指令,并生成执行文件 .bin  和汇编清单文件  .lst

关于  TASM 的使用,在TI网站中许多汇编应用都是用这个工具来做的,可以查找参考了解其使用方法。

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 楼主| 发表于 2016-8-22 14:38:37 | 显示全部楼层
Hello, i'm sorry, i was out of the forum from a long time.
How are you PC-1500 fans ?

Thank you huaweiwx. I know TASM.
The best assembler/disassembler is made by one of my friends (C. Gottheimer.) and named LHTOOLS :
http://www.pc1500.com/#utils

I have received a NANFENG PC-1500A + NANFENG CE-150 !
I have now all versions with their printers :-)
The last thing it to find the 3 Nanfeng user manuals.

发表于 2018-2-4 23:40:45 | 显示全部楼层

Hi Rom1500!
I have two PC1500. As far as I konw, there're about 400,000 units in main land China, most of which were imported around 1984.
Most of these machines are now out of service and are kept in state-owned enterprises.
For many people, PC1500 is their first conputer.
发表于 2018-2-4 23:41:37 | 显示全部楼层
By the way, you have a great site!
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